![]() If a fighter takes combat casting then he's blowing one of his last feats because he has them to throw away but if he takes rapid reload (repeating crossbow) just to take crossbow mastery later the he is being taxed and potentially losing a dead level of fighter (assuming we are sticking with that line of though). In this case, it wouldn't be "dumb" necessarily, it's more of an investment that is more expensive than usual and may or may not pay off, but regardless, it's not a broken feat or "circular logic." The first feat still definitely works for some people who are using normal crossbows. Is that "circular logic"? No, it's just a dumb fighter. ![]() Is there a rule that says feats have to not be useless for anybody who takes them? If a fighter takes combat casting (no prereq for class type), that's useless to him too. Quote: Difference is that there is still a benefit, the other is 100% useless. a "boar spear" doesn't get a ranged throw increment, even though a "spear" has one, for example. Note that a longspear is also not the same thing as a spear despite having "spear" in the name, and a crossbow is not the same thing as a bow despite having "bow" in it. This is from the perspective that a "repeating light crossbow" is not in general the same thing as a "light crossbow" unless specified somewhere. The reason the chambering would qualify is due to the phrase "in the same manner as you would a normal crossbow" <-thus since it is acting like a normal crossbow, the feat that applies to normal crossbows applies to the chambering (though uselessly so).īut the magazine has no such phrase granting it special inclusion, and otherwise, is not a feature of a weapon covered by the feat, so it isn't covered by the feat. Same deal.Quote: No, I am saying that because rechambering is part of the loading process, it would also be affected even though they aren't the same thing, granted it cant be reduced further than free action.ĭisagree, because it's not the same weapon that the feat says it applies to. Without casting defensively, ge provokes an attack for casting the spell, and assuming he doesn't get nailed and lose the spell for damage, the act of firing into melee provokes *again*. It's the same deal with a spellcaster casting a ranged touch spell in melee (think of this feat as the crossbow equivalent of casting defensively). Your feat lets you reload without the AoO, so you only face the one for taking the shot. If you are in combat with an opponent with Combat Reflexes, he would get an attack when you fired, *and* one when you reloaded. ![]() Does this imply that the action of reloading is what provokes (and not the action of firing in melee itself)? Table 8-2 on page 183 of the Pathfinder Core Rulebook states that an Attack(ranged) provokes an AoO. However according to the benefit paragraph you don't provoke when you reload your crossbow. Hummingbird wrote: Now, according to the description, you can fire in melee without provoking an AoO. PS: Crossbow Mastery is in the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting page 218 and CotCT Players Guide page 10 Can somebody please clarify this for me? Thx for any help. I've been reading the message boards with Crossbow Mastery for the past hour and kind find anything specific. Now, according to the description, you can fire in melee without provoking an AoO. ![]() A ranger may select Crossbow Mastery in place of Manyshot for his improved combat style at 6th level. Special: A fighter may select Crossbow Mastery as one of his fighter bonus feats. Reloading a crossbow for the type ofĬrossbow you chose when you took Rapid Reload no longer provokes attacks of opportunity. You can fire a crossbow as many times in a full attack action as you could attack if you were using a bow. Prerequisites: Dex 15, Point Blank Shot, Rapid Reload, Rapid Shot.īenefit: The time required for you to reload any type of crossbow is reduced to a free action, regardless of the type of crossbow used. You can load crossbows with blinding speed and even fire them in melee with little fear of reprisal. I have a question about the following feat:
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